SweoIG/Meetings/2007-02-21 Conference Call
Conference Details
- Date of Call: Wednesday February 21, 2007
- Time of Call: 10:00am ET; 3pm GMT
- Dial-In #: +1.617.761.6200 (Cambridge, MA)
- Dial-In #: +33.4.89.06.34.99 (Nice, France)
- Dial-In #: +44.117.370.6152 (Bristol, UK)
- Participant Access Code: 7936 ("SWEO")
- IRC Channel: irc.w3.org port 6665 channel #SWEO (see W3C IRC page for details, or see Web IRC)
- Duration: ~1 hour
- Convener: Susie Stephens
- Scribe:
Agenda
- Review action items - Susie
- Discuss Community Projects to support - All
- InfoGathering Task - Leo
- Enterprise survey publication - Karen/Wing
- Use case progress - Susie
- F2F update - Susie
- AOB
Minutes
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- ** Susie [945701ac@128.30.52.23] has joined #sweo
- ** Susie RRSAgent Zakim PaulaP wing pasquale LeeF @kidehen
- ** Channel created on Wed Feb 21 14:25:49 2007
<LeeF> Meeting: Semantic Web Education and Outreach <LeeF> Chair: Susie <LeeF> Agenda: http://esw.w3.org/topic/SweoIG/Meetings/2007-02-21_Conference_Call
- ** LeeF changed the topic to: Agenda: http://esw.w3.org/topic/SweoIG/Meetings/2007-02-21_Conference_Call
- ** bengee [bengee@82.207.128.166] has joined #sweo
<LeeF> Regrets: ivan <Susie> Regrets, Martin D., Uldis B., Kjetil K, Ivan H., Dunja E., Alistair D. <wing> whoa <wing> where is everyone? <Zakim> +[IPcaller] <Zakim> -[IPcaller] <Zakim> +[IPcaller] <Zakim> + +49.898.41.aaaa <Zakim> + +1.781.744.aabb
- PaulaP zakim, aaa is me
- Zakim sorry, PaulaP, I do not recognize a party named 'aaa'
<Zakim> +Karen <Zakim> +??P27 <LeeF> zakim, 1.781.744.aabb is Susie <Zakim> sorry, LeeF, I do not recognize a party named '1.781.744.aabb'
- PaulaP zakim, +49.898.41.aaa is me
- Zakim +PaulaP; got it
<LeeF> zakim, aabb is Susie <Zakim> +Susie; got it <LeeF> zakim, IPcaller is bengee <Zakim> +bengee; got it <LeeF> zakim, ??P27 is kidehen <Zakim> +kidehen; got it <LeeF> zakim, who's on the phone? <Zakim> On the phone I see LeeF, bengee, PaulaP, Susie, Karen, kidehen <Zakim> +Orri_Erling <LeeF> zakim, LeeF holds LeeF, wing <Zakim> +LeeF, wing; got it
- PaulaP zakim, mute me
- Zakim PaulaP should now be muted
- ** Karen [karen@128.30.52.30] has joined #sweo
<LeeF> Regrets: Martin D., Uldis B., Kjetil K, Ivan H., Dunja E., Alistair D.
- LeeF (the colon lets the minutes software pick up the list of regrets)
<Susie> OK :-)
- PaulaP needs to leave earlier today, sorry
- LeeF wants to know where all the GRDDL people are :-)
- PaulaP :)
- LeeF will help
<LeeF> zakim, mute me please <Zakim> LeeF should now be muted
- ** danja [danja@80.104.220.166] has joined #sweo
<LeeF> Susie: reviews action items, which all continue <Susie> Feddback on community [projects from 10 people <Karen> s/Feedback <Susie> Winning project was FOAF based White Listing for Fighting Spam <Zakim> +[IPcaller] <danja> that's me <LeeF> zakim, IPcaller is danja <Zakim> +danja; got it <Susie> 2nd project was Powder Browser Extension
- ** leobard [leo.sauerm@88.134.53.198] has joined #sweo
<leobard> hi all, sorry for being late <Susie> 3rd project Interlinking Open Data on the Semantic Web <leobard> we are moving our company at the moment <Susie> 4th was Knowee / contact organizer
- Karen wonders if there is a pointer to this?
<Susie> ACTION: Susie to post community project results
- RRSAgent records action 1
<PaulaP> +1 <Karen> +1
- leobard has problems dialing in, passcode 7936 not valid, any clues?
<bengee> worked for me today, leobard <danja> leobard, in the past (for grddl-wg) I often had to retry many times
- Karen suggests you try number again and press zero so someone at W3C admin can patch you in
- Karen number is +1.617.761.6200
<kidehen> Susie: GRRDL folks are here so usual Intro slot needs to be allotted <LeeF> zakim, who's on the phone? <Zakim> On the phone I see LeeF (muted), bengee, PaulaP (muted), Susie, Karen, kidehen, Orri_Erling, danja <Zakim> LeeF has LeeF, wing <Susie> Need to decide on cut off for projects <kidehen> LeeF: was kingsley talking to Susie before danja started <Susie> Danny Ayers introduces himself <Susie> Danny worked on SemWeb for quite some time. <Zakim> +Jeff_Schiffel <kidehen> danja: do not forget the mailing list intro :-) <danja> kidehen, ok <kidehen> danja: anyone else form GRDDL on the call? <kidehen> s/form/from <danja> don't think so - iand might need a ping <Zakim> +??P8 <Susie> Susie proposes supporting the top 4 projects
- leobard is on the phoneline now....
<Zakim> -Karen <leobard> is the open data in the top 4? then I am pro :-) <bengee> danja's ml intro: http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-sweo-ig/2006Nov/0055.html <Zakim> +Karen <Susie> KI supports idea of supoorting 4 projects
- danja admires bengee's memory ;-)
<Karen> q+
- Zakim sees Karen on the speaker queue
<bengee> nah, I was just googling as I had no idea who that danny ayers guy is <Susie> Support community projects by writing use cases, presenting on projects at conferences, giving demos, and blog about projects <Susie> Karen asks about criteria for selecting projects <danja> is Kjetil in sweo? <LeeF> danja, yes <LeeF> He sent his regrets for today <Susie> ACTION: Kjetil to share more thoughts on how to support projects
- RRSAgent records action 2
<leobard> actually, thats not complicated to teach in austrian semantic web school <leobard> we just tell them, they are open to us
- danja should have read the wiki : "I hope that the community can come together and create either a web service or a Perl module..."
<PaulaP> +1 for discussing this issue with the sw school <leobard> anonymous! <leobard> hihihihi...
- LeeF needs to be anonymous, otherwise Paul won't buy me my beer when he sees my votes. :-)
<danja> heh <kidehen> Note: Susie has covered "Outreach" and "Education" elements of SWEO project support :-) <Susie> Leo reviews InfoGathering Task <Susie> Leo has tidied up the Wiki site <Susie> Leo wants to make a Semantic Web Information portal <danja> aside: sweo isn't mentioned on front page of wiki <LeeF> That seems easily remedied, danja <leobard> http://esw.w3.org/topic/SweoIG/TaskForces/InfoGathering
- danja anticipates edit conflict
<Susie> 2 approaches <Susie> 1 integrate data and form a stream <Susie> 2nd is to use existing software <Susie> Suggestions to use WordPress <Susie> IH asked how the system could run for years - who will look after it <Susie> W3C could look after it, W3C members, or other companies
- PaulaP ...need to go now...sorry...bye
<Zakim> -PaulaP <Susie> Paul W and Benjamin volunteered to help
- ** PaulaP [patranja@89.49.144.108] has quit [Quit: using sirc version 2.211+KSIRC/1.3.12]
<leobard> susie: this is going to take a lot of project management <leobard> susie: there is the hosting aspect of it, building, communicating with the people providign the data sources <leobard> susie: it sounds good to leave the data in the existing source <leobard> susie: this will also show semantic web technologies <leobard> susie: but it always takes longer than expected... <leobard> susie: it would be good to deliver something quickl <Susie> KI: make source data in a particular format <leobard> q+
- Zakim sees Karen, leobard on the speaker queue
<Susie> Leo: Thinks data providers would be happy to make data available in RDF <Susie> Leo: If only show data and not have tools, then won't be successful <danja> longwell is nice <Susie> KI: Several RDF browsers about to be released <LeeF> q+
- Zakim sees Karen, leobard, LeeF on the speaker queue
<LeeF> q-
- Zakim sees Karen, leobard on the speaker queue
<Susie> Leo: need to provide interface for people who aren't so technical <LeeF> (Because Leo is saying what I was going to say) <kidehen> LeeF: a (X)HTML page that fronts the RDF Data Sources, right? <LeeF> The information needs to be presented in an accessible manner to people totally unfamiliar with the Semantic Web - I don't think a generic RDF browser - even a user friendly generic RDF browser - will suffice. But I've said this before so I feel like I'm beating a dead horse <kidehen> LeefF: True, so we are talking about the Web Pages to pulls these pieces (Browsers, Data Sources etc.) together <kidehen> LeeF: which could be a wiki page (at least during the draft stage) <LeeF> zakim, please unmute me <Zakim> LeeF should no longer be muted <leobard> Leef: I think both is needed: RDF data and generic browsing AND a shiny nice website showing the data especially for newbies <Susie> Lee: highlight the most useful categories of information <leobard> (last post was adressed from me to lee, not said by him) <Susie> Lee: To do that you don't need faceted browser. If data available, and annotated, then that's just another facet. <kidehen> +q
- Zakim sees Karen, leobard, kidehen on the speaker queue
<Karen> -q Karen
- Zakim sees leobard, kidehen on the speaker queue
<LeeF> zakim, mute me please <Zakim> LeeF should now be muted <kidehen> -q
- Zakim sees leobard on the speaker queue
<LeeF> In other words: I'm a bit agnostic about whether we try to do this using a faceted browser or not, as long as the result communicates what we're trying to communicate <LeeF> One point in favor of a faceted browsing approach is that it extends naturally to doing industry- and position-specific lists of resources (a la the cubes we discussed at the F2F) <Susie> ACTION: Leo to provide sample data format by Feb. 28
- RRSAgent records action 3
<LeeF> zakim, unmute me please <Zakim> LeeF should no longer be muted <Susie> Wing and Karen met together to identify format for the enterprise survey <Susie> Wing is going to take a closer look at the data to see if there are more interesting findings. <Susie> Wing is goingto see if interesting quotes <Susie> Karen to see how this can shape our messaging <kidehen> leobard: fine. <kidehen> leobard: I am registered properly for private messages :-( <Susie> ACTION: Survey report available by March 14
- RRSAgent records action 4
<kidehen> leobard: sure <wing> zakim, mute me please <Zakim> sorry, wing, I do not know which phone connection belongs to you <LeeF> zakim, mute me <Zakim> LeeF should now be muted <Susie> http://esw.w3.org/topic/SweoIG/TaskForces/Use_Cases <leobard> +q
- Zakim sees leobard on the speaker queue
<Susie> ACTION: Susie to chase people about use cases
- RRSAgent records action 5
<Karen> q+
- Zakim sees leobard, Karen on the speaker queue
<Susie> Karen: W3C has an office in Sweden. Interested in visitors who want to visit or speak at events. <LeeF> zakim, unmute me <Zakim> LeeF should no longer be muted
- danja has to dive out, grddl-wg telecon
<kidehen> +q
- Zakim sees leobard, Karen, kidehen on the speaker queue
<kidehen> -q
- Zakim sees leobard, Karen on the speaker queue
<danja> byee <Zakim> -danja <Zakim> -Karen <kidehen> Susie: This is why I wanted us to conclude the discussion via the mailing list
- Karen has to leave
<kidehen> bye <Zakim> -Jeff_Schiffel <Zakim> -Orri_Erling <Zakim> -bengee
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<Zakim> -kidehen <Zakim> -Susie <Zakim> -??P8 <Zakim> -LeeF
<Zakim> SW_SWEO()10:00AM has ended <Zakim> Attendees were +49.898.41.aaaa, +1.781.744.aabb, Karen, PaulaP, Susie, bengee, kidehen, Orri_Erling, LeeF, wing, danja, Jeff_Schiffel